Not really sure where to go with your mail+forum posting. The following message isn't directed to anyone in particular, but....

Drugs are bad.

Keith you edited you last post???? Why? Sooooooooo your seperated from BTL? now its the armor crew thats the ebil ones?.....Meh I still might war dec ya just for giggles. Im sure you got lot of alts to run youur incursions but oh well.

This.

I'll be honest. Making your ISK with little risk and then going to warzones to become or create KM is a bit cheating the system. But incursion money is/was finally allowing me to engage in fights and not be all "oh ill just lose, better wait for better chance." Why the hell do I need all fancy T2 ships trained if I can't fly them in glorious battle.

looks like you lot into black mail now how sad

LOL pubbies calling the mom fleets "illegal". Christ CCP needs to nerf incursions 6 ways back to sunday and declare the current farming a exploit as this is ridiculous.

i got no clue what you ppl are up to

but you seem to enjoy youre self that what eve is all about

PS. did you guys make any fraps ?

So someone banned me from something for some reason.

Always wanted my name in the spotlights. I'll have to settle for this.

I haven't logged in to play in over a year and I still manage some kind of ban by someone or some group I couldn't care the least about. I find such things entertaining.

Perhaps I'm merely easily entertained.

B-E-A-U-TIFUL

1. Kill two incursions on saturday.
2. Throw all the incursion bears into one constellation reaching over 600 incursion runners.
3. Start up grief fleets.
4. ???
5. Killing 7-8 nightmares, 5-6 machariels, basilisk, t1 battleships with caldari navy invuls...
6. Place tear buckets under griefed pilots in eve voice.

I LOVE YOU ALL

It was an honour to listen to Darius laugh like an idiot, on eve voice, before the fleet has even started to die.

You seem to have missed the other suicide fleets we did..

get outta here you dumb numb carebear KEITH PLANCK

Prolly be a good idea to have your facts in order before you go spouting off at the mouth.

I find this hilarious. You do realize that if these alts are really from mains that are in 0.0 and they are pvpers it is entirely possible that they decide they've had enough and come ecm YOUR logis in mom fleets right? You're just putting all your griefers in one basket and begging to get attacked. Personally I have enough ISK to pvp for a while without needing a place to make isk and I'd much prefer to be fighting live people than some computer AI, but here's my thoughts.

#1 ok I'll grant you it is a little odd not to kill the target or a assault when it's available
#2 Yes you may make some carebare tears and maybe get some revenge.
#3 the problem here is that while carebares care about their ISK YOU care about your KB
#4 if the carebares are smart they turn the tables on you take a page from your playbook and gank YOU
#5 You have a few jars of tears carebares get bucket fulls of yours when your KB shows up with 10-20 ships killed by rats.

Will they do it? who knows. If what pvpers everywhere say about carebares is true then they probably wont figure it out, but even if they don't interest in this will wane and at most you'll have forced a few carebares to learn to pvp enough to move out and plex. It isn't exactly like those who form mega alliances and rent out aren't doing exactly the same thing. They don't need to be "able" to fight and hold their space they just throw all the isk they earned from renters into massive cap and subcap fleets and blob until their opponent cant afford to field a fleet. In the end everyone in eve is a greedy a***** we all want enough isk to fly the ships we dream of at night and we all to an extent know not to fly what we cant afford to lose. Thus we all search for that golden opportunity to make quick isk. You may look down on these incubares, but by the same token you aren't much different. You are out for kills, and not enough people are coming out to null for plexs or techmoons so you seek to force your prey out of highsec. The problem to all of this is if you grief the people who supply the markets enough and they skyrocket the prices we will ALL be in pain. The Industry titans will ALWAYS have the rest of us by the B**ls and thats true in life as well as in the game. Don't like it? Get your own Captain of industry but wait.... then you're just the same as the people you despise. If they don't like it they could get PVP characters and go toe to toe with you! Wait.... They hate us pvpers as much as we hate carebares. Here's the bottom line without these isk hungry carebares the market prices would kill people's ability to pvp at the current level, and without us gun happy jerks who get itchy trigger fingers when we see pods in highsec and people autopiloting around few ships would be lost and there would be no demand. The truth is they need us and we need them it's a cycle people. You want to TRULLY get rid of carebares. you have to be one yourself. Unless everyone makes his or her own stuff and only uses what they can make themselves there will always be this dichotomy.

Keith. Dude seriously. Stop posting. Drugs ARE BAD. You are spinning out of control. Put your router in dishwasher and run the thing for a cycle.

[quote=Alex Veritae]3) You have a butt for a head and your head smells like poo. And you, incursion runners, should not have decced Skunkworks because one of our dudes got a cute gank way back in the day. It's caused you so much pain and misery.

So I see the bears have already ground up the new incursions to where the motherships have popped...Who's leading the next fleet?

The amount of stupidity and bullshit in the above quote is mind blowing.
But don't worry. We are soon to be publishing some lovely recordings that our excellent cameraman captured.

http://recluse.me/uploaded_images/mr-burns-wallpaper-790221.gif

Bunch of buffer armor/omni tanked typhoons?

High-Sec Incursions... take too long, ISK's being farmed, CCP too slow... this is all thats being reported, being brought to our attention, or having a dime being dropped on it ??? Oooh, there's a flash.

Try reminding all us miners, waiting any insufferable number of days & weeks for an end to an Incursion event., so that we can get back to what we do. Haven't I long suspected that Incursion activities were being 'milked' to no end... like duh. And by the way... does it or does it not seem... there is a disproportionate number of Incursion activities in Amarian controlled space?

But let's be honest...nobody likes a whistle-blower...even if you are right. There an old saying... if you can beat 'em... join 'em.

You go ahead and out care those carebears!

And then you can go after the SOVs who are milking the incursions on their turf!

And then you can break up the moongoo monopolies out there!

Oh wait, moongoo won't be in such demand if hisec players don't have a need for all that t2 stuff anymore...

Hell - Just get your pet CSM to outlaw hisec! That will "urge" those carebears into .... into..... well, actually, it will most likely"urge" them into dropping their subs..... Hell, thats ok, too! lessee.... how many accounts does that mean..... Might be some numbers around here about last summer that could be applied here.....

What's the matter? Having issues finding a fleet willing to do nullsec dirtywork for free dis time? Still 3 incursions in hisec or maybe you are afraid of what is waiting for you once you face the mothership?

I thought this was about the luiz. Maybe someone in BTL gave you a bigger bribe this time? Or maybe you indeed have to wait for scheduled op times because nobody wants to go on your and Kill it with fire's crap anymore?

This is almost funny if it weren't about protecting hisec content from nullsec politics and crap.

Well talking of bribes, we were all paid (each person in the fleet) 500mil to leave. It worked out at about 20bn isk in total for BTL, but they said it was absolutely worth it and we left, as agreed. The contract stipulated that we could return within three days, but had to give them that leeway. Just read the news article, it confirms everything. As for gang sizes? We can have a hundred fighting men and women in any area of space within two hours at any time, in any configuration of ship. You are a lunatic if you think otherwise.

I can assure you Sir, that we were all paid. You say yourself that Eve News doesn't do its research - but you rely on their comments to reinforce your point. The fleet that I was in, the one that killed a mothership and caused the death of another, was roughly 40 strong and every single person was paid the full amount. Whilst I cannot provide API details or screenshots for security reasons, my word on the matter will need to be enough. It's not like you were there - you can but speculate.

Quoted for truth.

+1 like for simplicity.

Followed a link to this thread and while reading it thought I was in General Discussion.

the mothership is shootable

they kill it

i don't see how that's griefing ;p

and cake...

I guess I should petition every ship i've lost ever because I PAY $15 A MONTH (((

not really lol i use plex

Killing a specific NPCs for sole purpose to prevent other people farming isk by killing some other NPCs over and over again; and enjoy their rage about it... That is near textbook definition of griefing.

TurAmanth I am trying to help you. This is an intervention. Stop posting, it is hurting you, me everyone. Cant you see what you are doing to yourself? Drugs are bad...your posting is worse.

God the tears are so, so lovely in this thread. Seriously, such crybaby's abound in Eve. Kill moar mom's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We win you lose.

No incursions for you this weekend